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The Dr. Josh Axe Show

10 Keys to Relieve Pain and Inflammation

with Jordan Rubin

Transcript

Josh

Hey, guys. We're going to talk about the 10 keys to overcome chronic pain. And we're talking about conditions like neck pain, low back pain, arthritis, fibromyalgia, you know, tears of joints. Maybe you had an injury in the past and you're still suffering from that condition, maybe even herniated discs. We're going to cover the top ways in terms of diet, nutrition, herbs, supplements, and natural treatments To overcome those conditions.

Jordan Rubin

Josh, not only is pain and inflammation such a major issue today, but the addictions that come from pain or narcotic pain medications, there are hundreds if not thousands of clinics for overcoming addiction. And we know that from being sports fans that different athletes will become addicted to prescription narcotics. This is serious and everyone who's watching knows somebody who who's in pain. It's kind of funny, my kids now watch Facebook Live or Ancient Medicine Today as part of their homeschool. So if you're a mom watching, you're going to learn great information and so are your kids. And so my 8-year-old daughter Alexis asked, what is the topic today? And I told her, and then my 9-year-old son Samuel said, I have lots of pain, my feet. He's been swimming a lot, so he's got blisters on his feet and he's talking about all his list of ailments. But the truth is, if 9-year-old Samuel has pain, You can imagine what other folks are dealing with. So many people live in pain.

Josh

Oh, yeah.

Jordan Rubin

We've experienced it. It's endemic. And so we want to give you simple tips to take the edge off, if not get to the underlying cause, and it will span everything from body therapies to what you take orally, what you put on topically, herbs, essential oils, you name it. This is a topic that affects every human being. Period. And trauma alone would cover that area.

Josh

Yeah, Jordan. I mean, if we're looking at the statistics and all the people around the world, we're talking not just millions but billions of people that experience chronic and sometimes debilitating pain in their life. And as you're saying, right now what they're turning to are medications and surgeries. You know, if you look at the stats for things like how effective back surgery is long-term, it's less than 20%. So 80+% of people that have most surgeries It's ineffective, it doesn't help take care of their pain. The great news is, Jordan, today we're going to be sharing 10 key natural things people can do to start to overcome chronic pain. So Jordan, let's jump into number 1 here. Let's talk about high doses of omega-3 fatty acids.

Jordan Rubin

And I should have been very clear, high doses of concentrated fish oil is what we're talking about. There was a study done a few years ago that showed The consumption of 12,000 milligrams of a high EPA/DHA fish oil for a period of months worked for rheumatoid arthritis as effectively as the pharmaceutical.

Josh

Wow.

Jordan Rubin

And in combination, it worked even better. Now, we're not talking about 1,000 milligrams or 2,000. We're not talking about flaxseed oil or chia, although all of that is good. This is high dose. So if you're someone who is in pain. Due to autoimmune disease, rheumatoid arthritis, scleroderma, if you've got other debilitating autoimmune conditions, mega-dose fish oils can be good. I would recommend working with a natural health practitioner when consuming those doses because of the possible blood-thinning effects, etc. And in this case, you can't consume enough fish to get there, you need a lot of cans of sardines to get 12,000 milligrams. And when you're looking for omega-3 fats, I recommend a fish oil that's higher in EPA when it comes to pain or brain. So think about that. But high-dose fish oil, look it up online, high-dose fish oil treatment can be really great for pain and brain.

Josh

Yeah, it's huge, Jordan. As you're saying, omega-3s are a key factor. And we can get these in diet as well. Eating wild-caught salmon is a great thing to do. We know mackerel, we know tuna. High in omega-3s, but as Jordan's talking about, in addition to getting those omega-3 fats from eating wild-caught fish, also supplementing with a high-quality fish oil supplement. All right, I'll unveil number 2 here, and it's systemic enzymes. Okay, we know enzymes actually help break down inflammatory proteins that can be circulating in your bloodstream and throughout your body, Jordan. And I know one of the things that you and I have both talked on, I know both of us have Used in the past are things such as proteolytic enzymes and enzymes found in certain fruits. I know we talked about our last segment of Ancient Medicine Today. So enzymes are critical when it comes to naturally reducing inflammation. One of the things I'd really recommend everybody do is follow a diet that is anti-inflammatory. That's going to help chronic pain. So the diet— here's an ideal diet. If you're saying, okay, Dr. Axe, what does an ideal breakfast, lunch, and dinner look like? If we're working to reduce inflammation. So Jordan, what I would say is for breakfast, let's do some fruit that's high in enzymes. And so it can be kiwis, it can be figs, papaya. Those are probably some of the best there for breakfast and then doing some bone broth with that. You know, we know the benefits of bone broth for supporting healthy inflammation levels. So that would be a great breakfast. For lunch, maybe it's a big salad, you're sprinkling on some apple cider vinegar, A little bit of olive oil, and then lots and lots of vegetables. Again, you can throw pomegranates and blueberries on there. So a big salad, maybe for dinner you're doing cooked salmon and another side of vegetables. But a diet that's high in vegetables and fruits is going to be concentrated in these enzymes that are going to help naturally reduce inflammation. So Jordan, before we jump into step number 3 here, do you want to fill us a little bit more in on enzymes and some of the benefits there for reducing inflammation?

Jordan Rubin

Absolutely. Well, let me digress for a second as well. Diet is critical, so is hydration. We did not have enough space on this board to list all of the tools that are available to fight pain and inflammation, but diet is critical, hydration is critical. Starches, which were noticeably missing from Josh's dietary recommendations, they typically are pro-inflammatory and they work on a level that is, I would say, negative to those who are dealing with chronic pain or acute pain. So when you are... Making up for the calories, that's where you're going to go with more fats, particularly monounsaturated and saturated. But when it comes to systemic enzymes, these are not the enzymes you take with meals. You take these away from food. They were developed really 50 to 70 years ago by various physicians around the world, and they are very effective for osteoarthritis, rheumatoid arthritis, and they've been studied against cancer as well. So systemic enzyme therapy is something you may want to check out online. It can be very beneficial. You take them on an empty stomach. Typically, they're from animal derivation.

Josh

Yup.

Jordan Rubin

But bromelain and papain can be systemic enzymes as well. And I recommend dosing up pretty high. They're usually small tablets, but you can take 6 to 12 a few times a day on an empty stomach. And again, when you're doing anything with the term therapy, Or in mega doses, even if it's natural, you may be best suited to work with a natural health practitioner. Some of the best out there are experts in systemic enzyme therapy.

Josh

All right, let's jump right in here. Key number 3, Jordan, I'll let you talk about this one to start, turmeric and curcumin.

Jordan Rubin

Absolutely. If you want to relieve pain, turmeric, which is the yellow-orange spice, along with one of its key components, curcumin, in the following forms. You can consume turmeric spice. You can make a tea or a decoction. You can consume or apply topically or inhale an essential oil. Or of course, you can purchase a supplement of a turmeric or curcumin extract. Dosage is key. There are hundreds, if not thousands, of research studies and articles, and bottom line, Turmeric benefits people for so many areas, but pain is probably first and foremost. So if you're dealing with pain and inflammation, you need to be consuming turmeric. Juiced is great too. If you buy fresh turmeric and you slice juices, it can be really— you slice it and juice it, add it to your green juice, turmeric juice is powerful. And now they're having it in shots at local health food stores and juice bars.

Josh

Wow, absolutely incredible. So turmeric curcumin. So many benefits for reducing inflammation. And let me give one other tip here. Actually, let me wait until we get into this next one because I want to talk a powerful 1-2 combination here in step number 4. So frankincense actually contains a compound called boswellia or boswellic acid. And we know boswellic acid actually has some very, very powerful anti-inflammatory benefits. And Jordan, of the clinical research, one of the most One of the most powerful, I would say, benefits of it is for treating arthritis. So somebody's struggling with chronic arthritis, joint pain, and if you're one of those people or know anybody, maybe it's knee pain, maybe it's shoulder, maybe it's neck or low back pain, anything to do with a joint, frankincense or boswellic acid can help. And so if you know anybody like that struggling with chronic pain, help us spread the message. But the This is a great thing to do. Now, I do want to mention there's actually a difference between frankincense herb or the frankincense powder and frankincense essential oil. They actually contain different compounds that are beneficial in different ways, but both of them are anti-inflammatory. And Jordan, I know that you've formulated things in the past and some great different products over the years, but I know that Boswellia recently, this is something you and I use on a regular basis, especially frankincense oil.

Jordan Rubin

Absolutely. And if you are looking for a way to get boswellia, boswellin, boswellic acid in your diet, a great way to do it is to find a supplement that has both turmeric or curcumin and boswellia. They go together very well. Boswellia is excellent for not only arthritis pain, but it's been studied in ulcerative colitis.

Josh

Oh, yeah.

Jordan Rubin

Which is super painful. Trust me, I suffered from and conquered inflammatory bowel disease. The combination of turmeric or curcumin and boswellia has been used for osteoarthritis, bilateral knee pain specifically, but at the right dosages can be wonderful. Frankincense essential oil is great. Boswellia powder is available, but it's not easy to make boswellia or frankincense into a tea because it's a resin. It's kind of little nuggets. It almost looks like sugar cubes, something like that. I mean, it is very hard and dense. So essential oil or supplement is the best course. Find a boswellia that's clinically studied and a turmeric, but there should be loads of research online that you can find not just on draxe.com but other great websites. But the 2 are an amazing one-two punch that have been very commonly used together topically and through oral consumption.

Josh

Based on the clinical research, what dosages are recommended typically of turmeric and boswellia?

Jordan Rubin

Great question. Turmeric, if you use it as a spice, I would recommend at a minimum 1,000 milligrams, but likely 3,000 milligrams. If you make a tea or put it in juice, it's harder to dose, but it's food, so it's fine. If you're looking at a turmeric extract, you're going to want between 500 and 1,500, but different products have different recommendations. Boswellia, now has been shown in as little as 200 milligrams 3 times a day to be very effective with newer extracts that have a better bioavailability, but you could also consume up to 1,000. Most products are going to have a combination of between 500 and 1,500 milligrams of each. Find a reputable manufacturer and do the research yourself. There are some really good products out there. And of course, when it comes to turmeric, just get it in your diet, have a taste for curry, and you'll be better for it. You will be in less pain.

Josh

And also mention here, Jordan, one of the things that I think is a great natural treatment if somebody is struggling with, let's say, skin pain. You know, a lot of times, you know, my father-in-law was diagnosed with psoriasis years ago. And, you know, a lot of people with psoriasis, even kids with eczema, can start getting red, dry, flaking skin that can be painful, that skin inflammation. You can actually take a mixture of turmeric powder, shea butter, and we got several people—

Jordan Rubin

It's a natural tattoo also because when you use turmeric, you got to be very careful. It will stain stainless steel sinks. Analgesic, that's an immediate. So some products work more on long-term pain.

Josh

On my website, if you just Google search Dr. Axe muscle rub, we've got a great muscle rub that includes Cayenne pepper there on the website. All right, guys, we're going to jump here into number 6. Is this GAGs, glycosaminoglycans? Yes.

Jordan Rubin

And glycosaminoglycans, remember I said there are a couple of different ways to relieve pain. There are analgesics for short-term acute pain, or this would be chronic pain. This is glycosaminoglycans, which are glucosamine, chondroitin, and hyaluronic acid. And glucosamine and chondroitin were the subject Of the wildly successful arthritis cure. So if you have long-term joint pain, while some research can be a little bit inconclusive on chondroitin and glucosamine, when you add in hyaluronic acid, there's reason to believe that that's an amazing 1-2-3 punch for long-term joint support. Hyaluronic acid in particular is great to support the synovial fluid that helps cushion the joints. So glucosamine, chondroitin, hyaluronic acid. Hyaluronic acid are all beneficial. You get it from broth, you get it from collagen-rich substances, joints, ligaments, tendons of animals. We talked about this recently, you can get hyaluronic acid from eating the skin of organic or pastured chicken. Don't do it with conventional. I love crispy chicken skin.

Josh

So guys, Jordan just talked about glucoseaminoglycans. One of the things before we jump into number 7 here, which is one of my favorite topics, I want to mention here, you know, different conditions associated with chronic pain. We're going to jump right into number 7 here. If you know anybody or you personally are struggling with fibromyalgia, neck pain, low back pain, maybe a disc injury of some type, potentially it's an issue such as chronic arthritis, maybe it's an old sports injury of your knee or shoulder and you still have pain today, I want to encourage you, really look into these natural remedies to help you.

Jordan Rubin

So, Jordan.

Josh

Let's jump in here into number 7. I'll kick us off here. Essential oils can help relieve chronic pain. I'm going to talk about some of my favorites. Essential oils, so we have some people mentioning some things here. Frankincense, one of my favorites. It's great for naturally reducing inflammation in the body. Another favorite of mine, Jordan, is lemongrass oil. Lemongrass has been shown to be especially beneficial for supporting cartilage, connective tissue, and joints. And so if you have joint issues or issues of the spine, using lemongrass is absolutely one of the best to be using there on a regular basis. So a few other things here, and Jordan, actually, I'm going to ask you a question after I go through a couple more oils here.

Jordan Rubin

Great.

Josh

So marjoram is a great oil, especially if you're having specifically muscle pain. If you have any type of, let's say you're getting a lot of cramping or muscle spasms, maybe even something like restless leg syndrome or tightness in those shoulders and muscle joints and with things like fibromyalgia. Marjoram is a great oil. There's a combination of doing lavender oil with peppermint oil that is fantastic for headaches. If you struggle with headaches or migraines, mixing— I just do 2 drops of lavender, 2 drops of peppermint, and rub it right at the base of the neck and sometimes right on the temples for a headache. So the temples and forehead, the base of the neck is so great for that reason. And just a couple more here. We mentioned frankincense is great for chronic pain. Peppermint is great. Wintergreen is great, and also ginger oil. Ginger oil is very warming to the body, so you can mix ginger oil with peppermint oil and that compound is great, as well as turmeric essential oil, something a lot of people aren't using yet, but I think turmeric essential oil is going to be one of the next great essential oils there.

Jordan Rubin

And there's one more I have to interrupt.

Josh

Go ahead.

Jordan Rubin

You can get chili oil. So if you want— now, absolutely do not put this on Neat, which means use a carrier, but chili, turmeric, and then one of the cooling wintergreen or peppermint would be the bomb for pain. And also, when you're looking to relieve a headache with lavender and peppermint, drink 8 ounces of water and repeat 10 minutes later. Don't mix anything with it. That is a great way to relieve a headache. Sometimes headaches are simply caused by dehydration.

Josh

Absolutely, Jordan. So we got a question here or a comment. What about magnesium oil for pain?

Jordan Rubin

That's a great question. I believe magnesium oil is amazing for long-term chronic pain, also for muscle pain particularly, which you'd be experiencing at night. So putting magnesium oil on the affected area before bedtime is amazing for many, many reasons. And keep this in mind, the skin is one of the largest eliminative organs. It's a two-way stream, so when you put something on your skin, it's going into your bloodstream. So use healthful, organic skin and body care products, but remember, when you rub something on topically, it's going to go into the bloodstream and it's a great delivery vehicle. And that's one of the reasons essential oils can be so powerful. Now listen, if you're someone who is suffering from chronic pain, acute pain, with some of the new healthcare laws that are into effect now, people are having to wait longer for hip, knee, and shoulder replacements.

Josh

Oh yeah.

Jordan Rubin

And everyone who has been involved even at the high school or collegiate level athletically has got something. So if you're watching, others are addicted or have come off pain pill addictions, narcotic addictions, this program is for you. And the final 3 are pretty amazing. The final 3 keys to overcome inflammation and pain naturally are amazing.

Josh

What is the best essential oil for tooth and gum pain?

Jordan Rubin

I think that I would go with, and I use this every day, clove and peppermint. I also love cinnamon. In fact, if you make a mouthwash of those, but a citrus oil is great too. So the orange cinnamon is amazing, adding lemon, but my go-to is clove or peppermint, but clove in particular for pain is really, really significant.

Josh

Yeah, I totally agree with Jordan. I'll throw one more in there, myrrh essential oil. There's actually some studies on it being great, but clove is probably the most Great point there, Jordan. All right, a couple more questions, then we're going to jump into our number 8 here. Someone says, what about pain when you have a sore throat?

Jordan Rubin

That's a great question. There are many tips for that, and recently I had something going on in my house. So I do recommend colloidal silver. I still think the jury's out on what it does systemically in each and every case, but I really like gargling with colloidal silver. And then swallowing after about 30 or 60 seconds. So, I think colloidal silver is great. We both love honey, particularly Manuka honey with its UMF factor.

Josh

Yeah.

Jordan Rubin

That is a great way to help with a sore throat. Also, putting lemon in there. And then some people make a flu buster or some people call it a fire cider, taking apple cider vinegar in some water along with some good honey, perhaps Manuka, and then utilizing herbs The juices of herbs such as horseradish, garlic, ginger, and onion, that's going to either kill the flu, cold, or sore throat or someone around you who is in your vicinity. But do some type of a cider tonic, an organic apple cider vinegar with honey, with hot peppers, with horseradish, with garlic, ginger, onion, and bam, that can bust a cold, flu, or whatever is causing your sore throat.

Josh

Absolutely, Jordan. All right, Jordan, we're going to jump in here into number 8. But what is your biggest recommendation for somebody struggling with arthritis?

Jordan Rubin

If it's osteoarthritis, I would say there's several things to do here. I do think a, let's call it moderate dose of omega-3s is important. Systemic enzymes is amazing. The turmeric, frankincense, or curcumin, boswellia compounds are really a lot of this. Also, the glycosaminoglycans, hyaluronic acid, glucosamine, and chondroitin. And a diet that is low in starch, high in omega-3s, and a good source of antioxidants. Now, we didn't even have the space to talk about the antioxidants in pomegranate and grape, etc., which can also help attack pain more on a long-term level. But if you've got arthritis, this is just what your joints ordered.

Josh

All right, Jordan, number 8 here. Talk to us about homeopathics for treating chronic pain and arthritis.

Jordan Rubin

Homeopathy really is a form of medicine. If you look on the back of a homeopathic remedy, it will have drug facts. It's a little understood science where the principle of like cures like. And so homeopathic is really a form of energy medicine. And when you're a parent, it's one of the safest ways to treat kids. Now, I've certainly seen homeopathy not work, but there's been some amazing stories of, I would say, acute conditions that are remedied through homeopathics. And when it comes to pain, let's call it trauma. The number one homeopathic is Arnica montana. It's a flower, but it is so commonly used around the world. It is very highly prescribed. Yesterday, my sweet almost 4-year-old Isabella fell out of a pretty high-top chair and she banged her head and she hurt her leg. And so I put Arnica gel on and I gave her an Arnica pellet, which we call candies because it's in a base of either glucose or lactose and it tastes really good for the kids. When I was younger, I was severely burned, and this is a story worth sharing.

Josh

Wow.

Jordan Rubin

My parents were living in Georgia. My dad was in chiropractic college, and my mom was cooking a meal that I didn't like. I was 2 years old, and I remember the meal. Mom, it's called spaghetti Marco Polo. It just wasn't good. But I was unhappy with the meal, so I was hanging on a cabinet that had a water distiller. In the old days, we'd add these water distillers, which means The water is boiling, 212+ degrees. I tipped it over on myself, it fell on half of my body, scalding water, so much so that the water was on the floor. When my dad came home from either work or clinic, it was so hot that through his shoes it burned several layers of skin on the soles of his feet.

Josh

Wow.

Jordan Rubin

So what my parents did was they went in the backyard, they took fresh aloe vera, covered me with it. and gave me a homeopathic called Cantharis, wrapped me in a blue blanket, took me to the ER. When they took the blanket off, it was all flesh-colored because of how much skin was there. There were literally bubbles of burn like floating in the air.

Josh

Wow.

Jordan Rubin

And my parents tell me that I was laughing. I mean, going from screaming to laughing due to the aloe vera and the Cantharis. And ultimately, I was told at the ER that half of my body was burned and I wouldn't grow hair on half of my body. And to this day, due to what my parents did with aloe vera homeopathy, I have a scar—

Josh

That's incredible.

Jordan Rubin

The size of a dime on my hip. Now, I'm not telling you to avoid burn treatment, but what's great about homeopathy, what's great about essential oils, when trauma strikes, do something about it, have a natural first aid kit. Homeopathy and essential oils are 2 of the best.

Josh

Oh, yeah.

Jordan Rubin

Herbs are great. While you're taking someone to the hospital, to urgent care, you will be able to do something about it. So homeopathics are available at every health food store. Some people practice what is known as classical or constitutional homeopathy, but when you're talking about pain, trauma, arnica and many others are great, whether it's back pain, leg pain, knee pain, Yeah, absolutely, Jordan.

Josh

I love these tips. And one of the things I've encouraged people for years, in fact, I used to teach a class in the past called Makeover Your Medicine Cabinet because today, so many people are filling their medicine cabinets with chemicals that cause kidney failure, liver failure, that cause a condition called leaky gut. Too many people are filling their medicine cabinets with chemicals that are not with natural. And the thing is, Jordan, chemicals and they're not using nature's medicine as you're talking about, aloe vera, arnica, herbs, essential oils. All of these different things we're talking about are so critical. Jordan, let's jump here into number 9, hydrotherapy.

Jordan Rubin

Hydrotherapy means using water for therapy and this might be one of my favorite areas. First, I'm going to tell you that you need to hydrate, that's a form of hydrotherapy. Dr. Faridoun Batman-Ghelig, I'm not going to make you repeat or spell his name, wrote The Body's Many Cries for Water. It's a major work in natural health, and he was able to cure peptic ulcer pain. We haven't talked a lot about stomach pain or gut pain. In prison, he was a prisoner of war, so to speak, with water, and it wasn't even purified water. All he did was have people drink enough water.

Josh

Wow.

Jordan Rubin

And in some cases, he would say, drink 8 ounces of water, 10 minutes later, drink 8 ounces of water. He would say, you're not in pain, you're not allergic, you're not sick, you're just thirsty. So start by consuming enough fluids, consuming enough water, and then the application of ice or heat. You know, athletes go in ice baths as soon as they're done with the game. I would hate that, but cryogenics is even getting popular.

Josh

Oh, huge.

Jordan Rubin

So heat therapy, so steam, sauna. You know what's great and so affordable? The old hot and cold shower.

Josh

Oh, yeah.

Jordan Rubin

for 12 minutes. Try this, it's cool and hot. Get in your shower, put the water as hot as you can handle and try to get it on the place in your body that hurts. Now, don't burn yourself, but as hot as you can handle for 1 minute. It will be hot. Then turn it all the way to as cold as you can handle, which is as cold as it gets. It will be cold. And then you'll turn— you alternate hot for a minute, cold for a minute, hot for a minute, cold for a minute for 12 minutes, so 6 cycles. And it's so strange, the hot becomes cold, the cold becomes hot.

Josh

Yeah.

Jordan Rubin

skiing, it was my first time, and I went in the hot tub in shorts or swim trunks, then I jumped in the snow to make a snow angel, then I jumped back in the hot tub. And it was strange because the hot became cold, the cold became hot.

Josh

I know.

Jordan Rubin

A 12-minute hot-cold shower is great. There's so many other old-school hydrotherapy, something called the Kneipp water bath. If you live near the ocean, walking on the sand, then walking in the water, hydrotherapy, using water to heal some people. Like colonics or colon hydrotherapy, which is a way to help with certain levels of gut pain. So there are a lot of things you can do. Some people, they know the ice bucket challenge went around. In the old days, there were clinics where they would take people that were really sick and dump an ice bucket over their head.

Josh

Yeah.

Jordan Rubin

And your body is forced to react. It brings circulation. We know ice it, heat it, that's old hat. Hydrotherapy can be great. Look it up online, hydrotherapy, and see some of the old treatments that clinics from around the world still employ today.

Josh

Absolutely, Jordan. And just a quick example of something you can do as well, you know, I know when I was younger I played a lot of soccer, really sprained my ankle once, like third-degree sprain, and that's one of the things that we did is we did, you know, hot and cold, hot and cold with my ankle every day for 2 weeks, did some other natural treatments, and it got me back much faster than I was supposed to. So it's a great thing to do. If you've got a kid that plays soccer, they ever get a sprained ankle or sprained wrist or something like that, hot-cold therapy is incredible. Jordan, let's jump in here to number 10, our last but not least. And let me say this, before we get into these many holistic treatments, as we've talked about this whole show, Jordan, and the reason why we did this is you and I have both Absolutely. We've had family members, we've had patients that we've worked with over the years that have struggled with chronic pain. And after years and years of you and I treating different people for different conditions, we found that these things really can work and help people live pain-free. And whether it's fibromyalgia, eczema, psoriasis, migraine headaches, tension headaches, neck pain, low back pain, Herniated discs, shoulder pain, knee pain, arthritis, any of those issues, changing your diet using food as medicine and natural treatments can absolutely help there. So Jordan, let's talk about here about holistic treatments. I'll jump in and then have you touch on this after this. Some of my favorite holistic treatments for treating chronic pain, number 1 is chiropractic care. Chiropractic is really great in dealing with especially issues of the spine. If you're struggling with chronic headaches, neck pain, low back pain, even issues like sciatica, you know, chiropractic is great. Chiropractic can help increase motion in the joint, get more fluid and nutrients there, remove stress off different areas of the nerves and spine. And so chiropractic care, a great natural treatment that's been shown through clinical research, and especially conditions like scoliosis. If somebody's struggling with scoliosis, scoliosis, chiropractic care is great. I know, Jordan, I've benefited from acupuncture.

Jordan Rubin

Absolutely.

Josh

Acupuncture has been very beneficial for me as well. And then I'll mention here just one more holistic treatment, actually doing things— there's actually some cutting-edge research on things like PRP and stem cell and things like that can be beneficial. But again, chiropractic, acupuncture, and one other thing, deep tissue massage, things like ART, which is Active Release Technique, or Graston can be very beneficial. And if you have benefited with a form of holistic treatment, maybe it's chiropractic or acupuncture, ART or Graston, or something I didn't mention at all, hey, let us know maybe something, a way that you have found pain relief from a natural treatment. Jordan, any other holistic treatments?

Jordan Rubin

You've left me with some of the more obscure, but we have talked about this in the past. And Josh and I have an upcoming book that you don't want to miss. It's called Essential Oils: Ancient Medicine for the Modern World. It is over 400 pages. It launches at the end of the year. It's going to be a great holiday gift, so make sure to mark that on your wish list. We talk about several body therapies, and one which goes along with massage is reflexology.

Josh

Oh, yeah.

Jordan Rubin

So this morning during my workout, I was using certain devices to massage my feet. So in between sets, I would stand on them, on the arch, on the forefoot, on the back of my feet. My mom was a registered or is reflexologist and it's great combined with essential oils. So many nerve endings of your body are really deposited in 3 areas, your spine, your colon, and your feet.

Josh

Yeah.

Jordan Rubin

So if you think about having a healthy spine, healthy colon, and healthy feet back in the old days, Paul Bragg had a great book on foot health. One of the best ways to do it is to walk on top sand at the beach.

Josh

Yeah.

Jordan Rubin

Just make sure to work your feet. That is a great reliever of pain and stress. Most massage therapists, particularly those who are administering lymphatic massage, can do a great job with reflexology. And that's another, lymphatic drainage is great. Administered through a massage therapist, but it's great. Other body therapies are amazing. There are some personal trainers out there and occupational therapists that do some great methods.

Josh

Oh, yeah.

Jordan Rubin

Feldenkrais, etc. And there's even some exercise regimens. We know that there is good data on yoga, on Pilates, and there's a form of exercise called Gyrotonic that is great also for joints, ligaments, and tendons. So there's so many great therapies and holistic treatments you can do. We talked about cryogenics, which is freezing yourself. That can be a good one. And far infrared sauna therapy, you could sort of put it in hydrotherapy, but far infrared therapy, which penetrates deep into the skin, is clinically proven to relieve pain. The truth is we could have listed 100 keys to relieving pain and inflammation. We only have 10 here, but if you're struggling with back pain, Neck pain, people have all kinds of pain from internal organs, ulcer pain in the stomach.

Josh

Oh, yeah.

Jordan Rubin

We can talk about ulcer pain in the intestines, gut pain, autoimmune disease. People live with pain and they suffer long-term results of medical treatments, whether it's surgery or medications to treat pain. Medications can be addictive and surgeries can cause issues. We're not suggesting that you shouldn't go to a doctor. Why not give some of these great first-line remedies a try? This is really the way to go and now you don't have to be powerless. You'll have essential oils, you'll have homeopathics, hydrotherapy, holistic treatments. You and I both do holistic treatments every week. I go in the sauna every morning. You swim. That's another very great joint-friendly pain-reducing method. And here's one big one, move. Many people suffer. Pain from lack of use, right? So go out there and move, walk, breathe deeply. And we didn't mention this on the board, but one of the greatest ways to overcome pain is to believe that you can. And if you love God, praying has been shown to reduce pain. So we could put P-R-A-Y all the way through the middle.

Josh

And to wrap up, Jordan, here I want to give a few tips. Maybe you can give your final tip. And just say this, as we've talked about, there are millions of people right now struggling with chronic pain, Jordan, from headaches, migraines, low back pain, neck pain, disc pain, arthritis, even skin issues, psoriasis, eczema, restless leg syndrome. All these issues can cause chronic pain. The problem today is that our conventional medical system is giving drugs first and surgeries. They're not using natural treatments that can help The body heals naturally without all of the side effects. I can tell you from working with thousands of patients, surgeries typically the success rate is very, very low.

Jordan Rubin

Absolutely.

Josh

And so my tip for you this week is this, create a health plan for yourself. Take a minute watching this and write down what you're going to change in your diet. Start eating more fruits, vegetables, bone broth. In foods rich in omega-3 fatty acids. So go ahead and write down what you're going to start eating this week. Write down maybe a few supplements, maybe it's turmeric, maybe it's a fish oil, and then one thing you're going to do movement-wise this week to help overcome chronic pain. And after you do this for yourself, do it for a friend. Hey, share this video with them or hey, maybe even write them one tip and say, hey, I just watched this video today. I think this would benefit you. Let's be on mission together and help transform the health of the world. Absolutely.

Jordan Rubin

I would add spices. Almost every spice plays some role against inflammation, whether it's cinnamon, whether it's vanilla, certainly turmeric and ginger we've talked about, chili peppers. Add more spice to your life. And if you think that these natural health treatments are just for us weirdos, look at the sports world today. I know almost every top athlete has either their own chiropractor or certainly gets chiropractic Team acupuncturists, certainly massage. This is mainstream, folks, because it works. And so if you are struggling, make sure to arm yourself with what you need to transform your health. And I think we amen to the bottom line here: if you know someone who is struggling, and if you yourself are struggling, pray. They've even proven in research that people that are prayed. for, get better results. The power of prayer reigns supreme over all this, and some people truly need a miracle. And essential oils, homeopathy, hydrotherapy, and gags are not going to do it. You need a miracle from God. So we encourage you to pray for people, get prayed for, sign on and give us a message and we'll pray for you.

Josh

Yeah.

Jordan Rubin

But the power of prayer works. But also, I heard this this morning because I was listening to James. Faith without works is dead. If you're struggling, it's important to believe you're going to get better, but you've got to do something about it. Be proactive, take control.

Josh

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