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Top 9 Cancer-Causing Foods

with Jordan Rubin

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Josh

Hey guys, Dr. Josh Axe here with Jordan Rubin. Welcome to Ancient Medicine Today. We've got a great show for you. We're going to talk about the top 9 cancer-causing foods you want to get out of your pantry, you want to get off your dinner plate, and you want to replace with healthy, real foods. And Jordan and I love teaching this message on natural health and healing, so help us spread this message right now on how to fight cancer By getting the right foods on your plate. Take a minute right now, punch that share button, click that like button, help us spread the word on how to use food as medicine and not poison, as we'll talk about today. Also, let us know right now the city you're from, the state you're from, the country you're from. We'd love to give you a shout-out right now, all of you who are watching live. So Jordan, we know that cancer is a huge disease that so many people are diagnosed with at some point in their life, and a big part of that is—

Jordan Rubin

Diet.

Josh

What they're eating on a daily basis. So talk to us a bit about now, what is that cancer-food connection? Why is it or how is it possible that food can play such a, you know, be such a, you know, so detrimental in terms of causing cancer in our diets today?

Jordan Rubin

Well, many natural health researchers believe that the increase in cancer, the dramatic increase in cancer is largely due to our environment. And part of that has to do with what we eat. And what's worse about these foods that we're going to talk about is that many of them are promoted and advertised as health foods.

Josh

Hmm.

Jordan Rubin

You've heard the old adage, an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure, and everyone out there has been touched by this dreaded disease, cancer. So you know someone, you love someone, maybe you are someone who has a history of cancer in their family, who wants to prevent cancer, who wants to fight cancer, you need to be watching this. There's some radical steps people take to prevent cancer. We've heard of people that have a history of breast cancer getting a radical double mastectomy for prevention. What next? Someone who has a family history of brain cancer getting their head cut off?

Josh

Yeah.

Jordan Rubin

I mean, seriously, folks, there is a better way. So today we're going to talk about these 9 foods and the hidden ingredients in them that are carcinogenic or cancer-causing.

Josh

Yeah. So we're going to give a shout-out to many of you watching today right now. All right, looks like we've got Michael Johnson watching in Eugene, Oregon. Hey, Michael, thanks for joining us here today. Brady Bennett watching from Victoria, British Columbia, Canada. Celeste Bradley from San Diego, California. Alex Vital watching from London, UK. Hey, Alex, thanks for being here with us today. Sarah Galloway watching from Cleveland, Ohio. Susan Tinkman watching from Fort St. John, British Columbia. Melanie Giles watching from Las Vegas, Nevada, and Gwen Wilder watching from Atlanta, Georgia, and Francisca Cortez watching from Zambogna City in the Philippines.

Jordan Rubin

Haven't you heard? Zambogna City, everyone knows where that is.

Josh

Okay, got it. All right, so let's go ahead and jump in here and start talking about some of these damaging foods, Jordan. One of the number ones here, why don't you start off here, charred meats.

Jordan Rubin

Now, this is tough because a lot of us like to barbecue. I mean, so many of us love good grilled meat, but when you cook over an open flame using charcoal, The meat begins to get charred and it really is a cross-caramelization and it creates various carcinogens including something known as advanced glycation end products or AGE. So it doesn't only cause a carcinogenic reaction which is causing unhealthy cells to grow, but it also causes you to age faster.

Josh

Mm-hmm.

Jordan Rubin

So charring meat till it's black has been shown in laboratory studies and indicated in humans to cause a carcinogenic reaction. So when you prepare meat, I always say this, the less you cook it, the better.

Josh

Yeah.

Jordan Rubin

In fact, the meat has, particularly if it's grass-fed, and we'll talk about that in a moment, grass-fed organic has a lot of great properties, but the more you cook it, the less bioavailable the proteins are. And we love broth. So what we know now is when you cook meat, And people say, I'm dumping the fat out. That's not fat, that's serum-soluble proteins that are coming from the meat. So the drier and the more cooked the meat is, the less health-giving its properties. So I would limit, cut down on charred meat. When you barbecue hot dogs and it's black, that's what we're talking about. That is definitely something that you want to avoid in your desire to prevent and even overcome cancer.

Josh

Yeah, and the next thing here really goes along with this, and that's conventional meat products. ...is given more antibiotics and more growth hormones than anything else out there today. When you look at conventional meat today, all of the feed that they're fed, typically it's GMO corn and soy and other byproducts. Jordan knows this in owning 5,000 acres of certified organic land, working with cows that are all grass-fed certified organic. But on the other end, Jordan, there's these conventional cows today that are—

Jordan Rubin

Yeah.

Josh

Literally pumped full of hormones, steroids, antibiotics, and other chemicals as well, other medications on a regular basis. And so we know that these byproducts or these chemicals are damaging to not only the animal's health but our health when we eat their tissues. And a principle Jordan and I always talk about, you are what you eat, what they ate, and not just what they eat but what they're given as well.

Jordan Rubin

Yeah. Yeah.

Josh

Thinking about how toxic animal meat is if it's conventional. And again, we're not saying that wild organic isn't good because Jordan and I eat wild organic grass-fed beef, wild-caught salmon. We eat things like that every day. But again, these conventional meat products and also they're fed grains or not grasses. When cows are fed grasses, they're higher in CLA, which Jordan and I believe There are some studies on CLA having some cancer-fighting properties, whether that be in vitro or on animal studies. Also, omega-3 fats, you know, they're higher in omega-3s, which are anti-inflammatory in nature, which could have anti-cancer benefits. So again, stay away from the burnt meat, stay away from conventional meat. Those are 2 biggies we need to stay away from.

Jordan Rubin

It is, and what's sad is this looks really good. So if you're seeing this, this is a tenderloin or tenderloin medallions, it is well done, It's burnt or charred, and it is, of course, conventional meat. So you want to stay away from it even though it looks so good. The old slogan, beef, it's what's for dinner. Beef is what's for dinner, but make sure it's grass-fed, organic. Avoid charred meat and conventional meat. Number 3, this is a big one and ubiquitous, sugar. Now, we don't have a pile of white sugar here because you know what that looks like.

Josh

Yes.

Jordan Rubin

The problem is, Josh, people consume sugar in so many forms, in so many ways. Sugar can be labeled in one bread as dextrose, cane syrup, sugar, sucrose, corn syrup. So we have examples of sweetened beverages, but also this is a big one. So I love when I eat meat, ketchup. I love it.

Josh

Yeah.

Jordan Rubin

Ketchup, and I'm just reading this right here. So 1 tablespoon, and if you're going to have— I love making homemade oven fries and I use a lot of ketchup.

Josh

Well, yeah, who just uses a tablespoon?

Jordan Rubin

Right. So now this is an organic ketchup. So I'm not saying that ketchup is only bad if it's conventional, but I'm looking right here and I'm seeing 5 grams of carbs, right? And sugars, 0. 4 grams. 1 tablespoon of ketchup. Now, it does have some antioxidants in it, but that's 4 grams of sugar. If you eat 3 tablespoons of ketchup on your burger, with your fries, in any type of recipe, you're looking at 12 grams of sugar.

Josh

Yeah.

Jordan Rubin

Soft drinks are loaded.

Josh

Huge.

Jordan Rubin

What did they say? And I don't drink soft drinks, but I think 12 teaspoons of sugar in a normal can of soda. And in this— and I know people that will drink an entire A liter or 2 liters. Yeah, 2 liters. I'm so out of the loop with soda, I don't even know what we're talking about anymore. Folks, you have to cut down sugar. Sugar feeds cancer. That's a fact. That's a fact in conventional medicine. They're even developing therapies to target cancer cells using sugar and insulin because they know that sugar feeds cancer. You've got to cut down sugar. It's so easy to look at labels today and regulations and legislation is going to make it even easier. Look at the number of sugars in the nutrition facts, not just the ingredient list, because sugar from fruit, sugar from sugar, it's all sugar. So you want to cut it down when you want to prevent or even reverse cancer.

Josh

Yeah, I mean, Jordan's totally right here. Again, getting sugar out of the diet is key, and especially as we're talking about those processed sugars. Corn syrup is a big one that we've all talked about that Is genetically modified or comes from a GMO food in some cases, which can be major— obviously, it can be a major cause of cancer as we've seen. And hey, if you're enjoying this live training right now on— and you're excited about being aware now of cancer-causing foods, take a minute right now, punch that share button, click that like button, because there are so many people that don't know that these foods cause cancer. I mean, how many people are sitting down having a A meal, a burger, conventional meat that's charred, having a soda, having some fries with some ketchup.

Jordan Rubin

And we haven't even gotten to the other ones.

Josh

And we haven't even gotten to some of the other ones. I mean, and then we could hit on what did they have for breakfast and some of the others. So a lot of people may have these cancer-causing foods every single meal during the day and we wonder why cancer is growing so rapidly. So thanks for being on mission with us here as well. So number 4 here, artificial sweeteners. What's the only sweet thing worse than Processed sugar, it's artificial sweeteners, major, major problems today. So whether we're talking about sucralose or aspartame, these are actually neurotoxins. And there's actually a great documentary specifically on aspartame called Sweet Misery. I remember watching years ago. You may check out one of those documentaries there online. But these artificial sweeteners are so highly toxic today.

Jordan Rubin

Yeah.

Josh

The rise, remember that documentary between aspartame and tumors and other sort of neurological diseases, is these are very toxic to the body. And Jordan, I remember reading a study, this wasn't too long ago, on sucralose and its effect on gut microbes and actually killing off beneficial microbes, a.k.a. probiotics in the gut. That was one study. And another study showing... It actually may cause diabetes or be diabetes-causing. Jordan has talked about this for years about when you're tasting something sweet, just because it doesn't have sugar doesn't mean it's not going to affect your pancreas and your small intestine and other organs in the body, right?

Jordan Rubin

Absolutely. Artificial sweeteners or diet sweeteners, I used to say this, it's kind of unfair that they can call it diet. I'd rather they just cross off the T. Bottom line? There are documented case studies of artificial sweeteners causing addiction that is worse than recreational drugs, worse than alcohol, worse than tobacco, and even pain medication. So get off the artificial sweeteners. Sugar is even better if you can quantify that, which is absolutely crazy.

Josh

Yeah.

Jordan Rubin

Now, I want to talk about refined grains. So now, this is interesting. When you go to a restaurant and they say, we have multigrain toast, how many times have you been with someone and they're like, oh, multigrain toast, I'll have that? I asked the restaurant to tell me what was in it. Of course, the waiter couldn't, but then he went back and he read it, and the ingredients were unbleached flour, wheat flour. Those are both refined.

Josh

Yeah.

Jordan Rubin

Not only that, non-organic wheat and other grains may not be genetically modified, but they are actually sprayed with glyphosate, which is the compound in Roundup, and that is radically Destructive on your gut. But think about it, when they stack up the grains, when they thresh them, at least that's what they used to do, they don't want them to mold and they don't want pests to get them. So they've got to spray them so that the pests won't eat them during the time they leave them in the fields.

Josh

Yeah.

Jordan Rubin

Refined grains also turn into sugar, but what's even worse, they're made up of disaccharide starches which a compromised gut can't break down, which cause an overgrowth of bad bacteria insulin spike. It's really awful. So I believe that refined grains are some of the worst things you can consume. Now, I will say this because some people watching, Josh, are thinking, well, you're just ruining everything. I can't go out to eat. I can't eat at friends' houses. I will say this. I am not a fan of any refined grains, but if there's one that I think is least damaging, it's probably white rice. White rice has been consumed for a long time. It's not nutritious. Don't get me wrong. I prefer brown. I prefer black, which is my favorite. But if you have a choice of a refined grain, white rice can't be genetically modified, it usually doesn't have glyphosate. You're better off, especially if you combine it with some healthy veggies, some fish, and some healthy meat. But refined grains are a no-no. They turn to sugar, they help poison the body with glyphosate residue, and they're bad on the gut. That's a triple whammy negative.

Josh

Jordan, we got a question here from Alicia Austin here. She said, what else besides Ezekiel bread is okay or would you eat?

Jordan Rubin

Now, Ezekiel bread is a brand, but it's a term that denotes sprouted bread. Now, Josh, as much as I love sprouted bread, some sprouted breads, if you read the ingredients, they add gluten to it. And it's not sprouted gluten, by the way. So there are brands though of sprouted bread That do not have gluten added. I would recommend that. My favorite type of bread to consume would be more of an heirloom grain like a spelt or one of the sort of wheat alternatives that is more pure like emmer and some of the others. But what you want to look for is either sprouted that has no gluten or better yet, whole grain sourdough. The only ingredients, for example, would be whole grain spelt.

Josh

Okay.

Jordan Rubin

water, and salt. So what they use is a starter culture with the probiotic yeast from the air that predigests. So that's some of my favorites. Look for whole grain sprouted or whole grain sourdough gluten-free— excuse me, no gluten added. And then the other, more of like an Essene bread, the brand Mana Bread. They're more like a cake.

Josh

Yeah.

Jordan Rubin

But those are really, really sprouted and really, really good. And then if you're looking to go away from gluten grains, There are some millet breads, etc., but honestly, Josh, for many people, especially if you're concerned about cancer, I would ditch the bread.

Josh

Yeah.

Jordan Rubin

I mean, I know you make sandwiches for kids, etc. Sprouted and sourdough is good, but bread is typically not super good for people. I will throw in a plug here. You and I were talking off the air about one of our favorite brands, Simple Mill.

Josh

Oh yeah.

Jordan Rubin

Simple Mill has a bread that you can bake.

Josh

Yeah.

Jordan Rubin

A bake mix and they use cassava flour, almond flour, sunflower. It takes a little longer, you're baking it, but at least you're not grinding it. That's a gluten-free bread. It isn't as much a sandwich bread, but that's really, really good.

Josh

Oh, yeah. Yeah, I love Simple Mills, great stuff there. Here we go with number 6, GMO foods. You know, genetically modified organs, they're not found in nature. These are things that we have cooked up in a lab, we've wired in the DNA of other things that have caused it to become GMO. really dangerous for our own health. And so whether it's GMO corn, GMO soy, GMO alfalfa, there are a lot of GMO products out there, canola. So staying away from things that are genetically modified and looking for that label, that non-GMO certification or certified organic labels that mean these foods are not GMO, I think is important to look for as well. And there are studies, some, Jordan, have been Retracted at this point. But when you look at these GMO studies still that they've done on animals, specifically rats, I mean, they're pretty convincing if you look at what happened over a period of time to kidney function, to liver function, to tumor growth. It really is scary when you look at genetically modified foods. So our recommendation is absolutely going completely free of genetically modified organisms. And I had a question here from somebody, what about sugar from fruit or eating fruit? Is that cancer-causing as well? That's from Paula Bennett. My thought is this, is that sugar in small amounts, if eaten in a whole food form, that's natural for the body. Your body is going to process those. It's when you have excess sugar that stays in the bloodstream or your body, you're causing certain organs to compensate and overwork. And if you have too much sugar, those things, how they're going to affect your gut microbiome and cause Certain things like yeast overgrowth. So again, sugar is not a villain unless it's overconsumed, which 90+% of the time it is. But just to give you an example, if you were going throughout your entire day and for breakfast you had a cup of blueberries and a scoop of protein powder that came from bone broth, and then for lunch you're doing a big salad and maybe there's a tomato on there, and for dinner you're You're doing some organic meat and maybe a salad with a few dried cranberries and that's it, that's fine, right? But it's when we start consuming sugar, that's 4 tablespoons in ketchup is 20 grams of carbs, 16 grams of sugar, plus the bread, plus we had a piece of cake at night, plus we had cereal for breakfast, so on and so forth, the sugar really starts adding up there. So that's my answer there. Right.

Jordan Rubin

And I think if you're going to eat fruit, I always recommend Adding fat to it. Now, fat and fiber are your friends when it comes to limiting the sugar effects because what sugar does, it triggers a blood sugar spike, which means insulin comes in to push the blood sugar down and it often stores that blood sugar for later or it can cause damage to hormones, your brain, etc.

Josh

Yeah.

Jordan Rubin

So eat— some fruits already have fiber. So for example, eating an apple with the peel is great. And it's funny, some people like to peel the apple, so do I, except I would eat the peel instead of the apple. But eating high-fiber fruits such as oranges, mangoes are good, even bananas, they are good for you, but consume it with almond butter or make them in a smoothie with coconut milk. Better yet, consume low-sugar fruits such as Josh mentioned cranberries, blueberries. All berries are pretty low in sugar. Green apples are on the low end of the spectrum, grapefruit, etc.

Josh

Yeah.

Jordan Rubin

I always say if you're wanting to Prevent or fight cancer, limit your fruit to 2 servings a day.

Josh

Yeah, and as Jordan's talking about getting fat with your fruit, 2 of our favorites are coconuts and avocados, which— what families do those fall in?

Jordan Rubin

Coconuts are one-seeded drupes and avocados, I believe, are fruits. But honestly, we got to figure that out one time because I'm so confused. Is tomato a fruit? Is it a vegetable? Then there's mushrooms, which is really a fungi, but thank you for getting me on that rabbit trail.

Josh

All right, here we go, conventional dairy.

Jordan Rubin

Conventional dairy is a secret soup of—

Josh

Poison.

Jordan Rubin

Yeah. I was going to come up with something more alliterative, but what we've got here is the ultimate antithesis of health. So we've got dairy from grain-fed cattle, likely genetically modified grains. A percentage of the cows would be given bovine growth hormone, which is a genetically modified hormone to increase their milk production. They are given antibiotics. Typically, they don't let you milk them right when they're given antibiotics. And the industries are getting better because your voice is being heard, by the way. But we've got that. Then we've got pasteurization, which destroys the enzymes that will help you absorb the calcium. Then we've got homogenization, which creates xanthine oxidase, which is an enzyme that can be destructive to your arterial walls. I'm getting fired up now. And it's skim. Folks, I got to tell you this, if God wanted fat-free or skim milk, he would have put a cream separator on the udder of a cow, sheep, or goat. Folks, conventional skim milk is not a health food. It is a health villain. There are many dairy products that we do like sheep milk yogurt, goat milk yogurt, Amasi from cows that are fed grass and that are not containing beta-casein A1. This is allergenic. It's one of the top allergies. It can disrupt your gut, your brain, your immune system. It's glue.

Josh

Yeah.

Jordan Rubin

It is glue because people used to eat glue. Milk is— why do you think there's a cow as a logo on the glue? They use milk protein.

Josh

Right. Okay. Crazy.

Jordan Rubin

Do they even use glue anymore? I mean, I don't—

Josh

I haven't used glue in a long time. Actually, super glue, my shoe was coming up, my heel was coming up.

Jordan Rubin

No, but I mean glue. Remember we used to have tests in school?

Josh

Oh yeah, of course. Elmer or whatever it was. Yeah.

Jordan Rubin

We're not going to mention brand names. So get out your glue, and people would eat it, and I always wondered why, but maybe because they were protein deficient.

Josh

Could be.

Jordan Rubin

Anyway, if you eat glue— I mean, I'm just kidding.

Josh

All right, burnt toast here. Next one here, you can see we talked about this earlier with charred meats, and when you overcook something to where it's burnt, really you start producing these, as Jordan talked about, AGEs, these cancer-causing oxidative compounds. And they also cause you to age faster. And so these are carcinogenic when you burn toast. So again, a little bit of that there, that's okay. This sort of burntness, that's not okay when we're talking about grains in general. So charred meats, burnt toast, it's burnt, has cancer-causing materials. Jordan talked about typically the less cooked stuff is, the better in many cases. So again, eating whole grain breads that's lightly toasted, that's fine. You don't want to do the charred meats there as well. We have—

Jordan Rubin

And you know burnt toast isn't good because when you're playing football or basketball and you leave someone sort of behind, you say they're burnt toast.

Josh

Yeah, I just burnt you.

Jordan Rubin

Yeah, you've been burnt. So they knew it was bad. I love the etymology of words and phrases. I always like to figure out cat on a hot tin roof, it's raining cats and dogs, throw the baby out with the bathwater. I got a million of them.

Josh

All right, next here, Jordan, last one. Hydrogenated oils.

Jordan Rubin

Why are you giving this to me? Folks, how many of you remember seeing one of your favorite TV moms promoting an oil as we were growing up as super healthy?

Josh

Oh, yeah.

Jordan Rubin

Folks, partially hydrogenated or hydrogenated oils from GMO crops like cottonseed, corn, even the sunflower and safflower, which is highly refined. This is not how oil looks when it comes out of a seed. It's high in omega-6, but worse, hydrogenated oils, in my opinion, are the most carcinogenic substances. They are damaged fats, and when you damage fats, you damage nutrients in the body that can't be easily eliminated. Fats are not eliminated the same way water is. This is what's even worse.

Josh

Oh, yeah.

Jordan Rubin

This looks like a good yummy sort of nut butter, but some of these nut butters inside them, even brands that choosy moms choose, have hydrogenated oils. Look for hydrogenated oils and run the other way. They are absolutely carcinogenic. I don't care who's promoting them. I don't care what moms choose them. You need to choose to not consume them. And this brings up a good point. When you eat at a restaurant, you got all this stuff.

Josh

Yeah.

Jordan Rubin

You're getting oils that you don't know about. You're getting nut butters. You're getting ketchup. Folks, you've got to be proactive. And if you want to learn more about some of this information, Go to draxe.com. There's articles on virtually every topic we've covered today and more, and we did a series of videos with GMO expert Jeffrey Smith, author of Seeds of Deception and Genetic Roulette. Check those out on this same channel.

Josh

Yeah.

Jordan Rubin

Folks, we're here every Monday through Thursday, Ancient Medicine Today, 10:30 AM Central Time, giving you information on what foods to eat, how to use food as medicine, and how to avoid Frankenfoods or poison masquerading as food. Folks, if you love this information, make sure to punch that love button and more importantly, share this information with someone you know and love. They may not believe everything we've said. And I know it's hard with your family members. They eat this stuff. They don't believe sugar is bad. The American Dental Association, the American— look, folks, planting a seed is the ultimate way to transform health.

Josh

Yeah.

Jordan Rubin

You and I have both been touched personally with cancer with family members or our own bodies. And we know that avoiding these foods is paramount to keeping a strong and healthy body to run and win the race of life.

Josh

Yeah, so remember these tips. Stay away from charred meats. Stay away from conventional meat. Get off the sugar. Get off the artificial sweeteners. Get rid of the refined grains. Get rid of GMO foods, conventional dairy, burnt toast, hydrogenated oils, and eat real food, lots of fruits, lots of vegetables, lots of whole grains. Wild organic meats, and lots and lots of herbs and spices on a daily basis if you want to fight cancer naturally. Guys, this has been Jordan Rubin, myself, Dr. Josh Axe, with Ancient Medicine Today, causing— covering the top 9 cancer-causing foods.

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